# Help with Bottom Warpage **URL:** \ **Category:** Hardware\ **Created:** [June 11, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/help-with-bottom-warpage/3583 "2016-06-11T00:59:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 7\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VRS065](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/919ad9/32.png) [@VRS065](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/VRS065)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 12:59am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/help-with-bottom-warpage/3583/1 "2016-06-11T00:59:18Z")
Hello, I have designed up a holder for my daughter and trying to make one for her. I am using white ABS. The quality of it generally I am really happy with but the bottom at both ends has warped up away from the printer bed by maybe 2 or 3 mm. This is the second one I have done and its still the same. I am using the intermediate settings on Cura for ABS, and have set the infill to 10% on the second print to see if that had an effect. Head temp 240 degrees, bed temp 110 degrees. Can anyone suggest what i could try to eliminate the warpage (if that’s the correct terminology). I have done some reading, and am i right that enclosing the printer would help stop this as its caused by uneven cooling? Any help, suggestions or guidance would be very much appreciated. [![](http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n601/whipit74/IMG_3149_zpskuuxa7yj.jpg)](http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/whipit74/media/IMG_3149_zpskuuxa7yj.jpg.html) [![](http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n601/whipit74/IMG_3151_zpszddpnjvh.jpg)](http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/whipit74/media/IMG_3151_zpszddpnjvh.jpg.html) [![](http://i1142.photobucket.com/albums/n601/whipit74/IMG_3152_zpsozktgo3q.jpg)](http://s1142.photobucket.com/user/whipit74/media/IMG_3152_zpsozktgo3q.jpg.html) ---
**Author:** ![VRS065](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/919ad9/32.png) [@VRS065](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/VRS065)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 1:48am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/help-with-bottom-warpage/3583/2 "2016-06-11T01:48:33Z")
Thought I would also follow up. I have to date mainly printed things for my car, like gauge holders etc. Being a machinery designer I am very familiar with ABS as an engineering plastic so i have predominantly used that. But I must say its a little over whelming the choice of materials we can use in 3D printing!! Would I be correct that for car parts etc ABS is probably the best choice? But for things around the home like the caddy above maybe something like T-Glase would be more appropriate? Would T-Glaze be more or less prone to the warpage issue? ---
**Author:** ![catzcradle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/977dab/32.png) [@catzcradle](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/catzcradle)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 3:17am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/help-with-bottom-warpage/3583/3 "2016-06-11T03:17:27Z")
I had similar problems doing prints like that in ABS, even with an enclosure. I gave up and switched to esun PETg. Haven’t looked back. ABS i only use now for small parts now. ---
**Author:** ![kcchen\_00](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/9dc877/32.png) [@kcchen\_00](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/kcchen_00)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 3:52am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/help-with-bottom-warpage/3583/4 "2016-06-11T03:52:27Z")
Try using a 5-10mm brim to seal the bottom to the bed reducing any drafts that contributes to the contraction… which cause the warping. With ABS, I generally don’t cool the part until the print is about 10cm. And when the fan comes on, its usually restricted to 60%. ABS is great for utilitarian parts which require durability. For a piece like this,an easier filament to print (PETG or PLA) should be fine with minimal warping. ---
**Author:** ![VRS065](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/919ad9/32.png) [@VRS065](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/VRS065)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 5:39am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/help-with-bottom-warpage/3583/5 "2016-06-11T05:39:39Z")
really appreciate the replies guys, as I say maybe i have just gone to ABS as i knew it. Looks like some experimentation with other material is in order 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Farris](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3ec8ea/32.png) [@Farris](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/Farris)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 1:41pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/help-with-bottom-warpage/3583/6 "2016-06-11T13:41:53Z")
I fixed my raising up issue by lightly scrubbing my print bed with a magic eraser pad and rubbing alcohol between every print. ---
**Author:** ![Rp1030](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e99b99/32.png) [@Rp1030](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/Rp1030)\ **Post date:** [June 11, 2016, 1:45pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/help-with-bottom-warpage/3583/7 "2016-06-11T13:45:22Z")
I have not had any problems with ABS warping since I did the Openrails X Mod and the Aluminum Plate Mod. it will cost, but it was definitely worth it. My stock rods were bent and I attribute all my warping and layer issues to that.