# Layers not adhering to each other

**URL:** <https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/layers-not-adhering-to-each-other/692>\
**Category:** Hardware\
**Created:** [July 14, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/layers-not-adhering-to-each-other/692 "2014-07-14T19:21:17Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 7\
**Page:** 1

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![dhcustompak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@dhcustompak](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/dhcustompak)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2014, 7:21pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/layers-not-adhering-to-each-other/692/1 "2014-07-14T19:21:17Z")

</div>

Hi!  
I have been working with two Taz 4’s and have been experiencing an issue on both printers. That being said, I’m assuming I’m doing something wrong, and I was hoping someone might be able to point out my mistake.

I have been having issues with the layers of my prints in ABS not adhering to each other very well (see photos).

 ![IMG_1257.JPG](https://us1.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/uploads/lulzbot/original/2X/d/d9bbbc43319aa93b13e140acbae06342c5d32b6f.jpeg)  
My layers height: .25mm  
First Layer height: .25  
Fill Density: 30%  
infill speed 40mm/s  
travel speed 50mm/s  
Extruder Temp: 230c  
Bed temp: 95c

Are there any settings I have really wrong? I have been covering the printer to try and prevent any cold air from causing any type of warping.

I have had this happen with 3 different spools of Filament, and on multiple different prints.

Any help would be greatly appreciated.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Orias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.lulzbot.com/orias/32/3_2.png) [@Orias](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/Orias)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2014, 9:23pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/layers-not-adhering-to-each-other/692/2 "2014-07-14T21:23:56Z")

</div>

What are you using for an enclosure? ABS tends to shrink more than most of the other filaments. Can that model be printed in a different orientation?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![dhcustompak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@dhcustompak](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/dhcustompak)\
**Post date:** [July 14, 2014, 11:35pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/layers-not-adhering-to-each-other/692/3 "2014-07-14T23:35:28Z")

</div>

Thanks for the fast reply Orias!

I have just been using a large plastic bag to try and keep drafts from warping the piece. I am currently ordering some 80/20 to build an enclosure to match the printer.  
Is it likely that I need to keep the printer in a warmer area? It is currently in a room that is about 70F. Or if I build a better enclosure, should that be sufficient?

Also, the reason why I printed the model in that orientation was to reduce support material. Is the overall height of the piece a detriment to the print since it’s further away from the bed?

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![Orias](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.lulzbot.com/orias/32/3_2.png) [@Orias](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/Orias)\
**Post date:** [July 15, 2014, 7:26pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/layers-not-adhering-to-each-other/692/4 "2014-07-15T19:26:46Z")

</div>

Ideally, with ABS, you’ll want to maximize the cooling time. A thicker enclosure will certainly help, even a blanket temporarily. We have a guide on assembling an enclosure available here: [http://ohai-kit.alephobjects.com/workflow/cat\_guard/](http://ohai-kit.alephobjects.com/workflow/cat_guard/) The BOM can be found here: [http://devel.alephobjects.com/lulzbot/TAZ/cat\_guard/](http://devel.alephobjects.com/lulzbot/TAZ/cat_guard/)

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![dhcustompak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/2bfe46/32.png) [@dhcustompak](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/dhcustompak)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 5:10pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/layers-not-adhering-to-each-other/692/5 "2014-07-16T17:10:25Z")

</div>

Thanks again for all the help! We will expedite that process, and I’ll report the results here.

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![gannon](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.lulzbot.com/gannon/32/10_2.png) [@gannon](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/gannon)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 7:24pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/layers-not-adhering-to-each-other/692/6 "2014-07-16T19:24:40Z")

</div>

hmm…looks like something that might be nice to use all that extra t-slot for.  
Any reason for the name “CAT” guard? 😛

---

<div class="post-metadata">

**Author:** ![nopick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7bcc69/32.png) [@nopick](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/nopick)\
**Post date:** [July 16, 2014, 7:48pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/layers-not-adhering-to-each-other/692/7 "2014-07-16T19:48:29Z")

</div>

Constant Air Temperature? Or, just to keep the pesky cat out of the printer…
