# Leveling problem.

**URL:** <https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/leveling-problem/6990>\
**Category:** LulzBot Mini\
**Created:** [October 28, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/leveling-problem/6990 "2019-10-28T22:02:13Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 4\
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**Author:** ![Gilz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.lulzbot.com/gilz/32/9940_2.png) [@Gilz](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/Gilz)\
**Post date:** [October 28, 2019, 10:02pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/leveling-problem/6990/1 "2019-10-28T22:02:13Z")

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My Mini (type1) used to gauge the Z-axis height during the pre-printing stage (just after nozzle cleaning) by descending to each of the metal discs at the corners of the buildplate in turn. The nozzle would touch a disc, back off about 1 cm, then come down more slowly and just “kiss” the disc, and retract – then onto the next corner etc. Now, on the “second” approach instead of “kissing” the disc it remains touching it for about 1 second and meanwhile you can hear the z-axis motor still trying to turn. (It gives 3 or 4 little “tock-tock-tock” sounds). Then the nozzle backs off and does exactly the same with the other corner discs.  
Has the latest software update changed the way that leveling is done, or do I need to clean the nozzle tip to ensure better electrical contact with the discs? The Z-axis offset and Estep value are correct for my machine (I always check them when up-dating the firmware). I am using Cura:3.6.20, Firmware: 1.1.9.34. I am using ABS. The nozzle wiper is new.  
Strangley enough, the parts turn out as good as ever in spite of this leveling business.

Update: I cleaned the nozzle with acetone so it would make good contact with the four corner discs. I checked that there was good contact with a multimeter set to ohms. However, this did NOT cure the problem. I’m guessing there is a poor connection either from the corner discs or from the printing head to the circuit board. A broken wire? A corroded multipoint plug? I need to investigate. Anyone else met this problem.

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**Author:** ![nopick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7bcc69/32.png) [@nopick](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/nopick)\
**Post date:** [October 29, 2019, 12:51pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/leveling-problem/6990/2 "2019-10-29T12:51:11Z")

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Recent firmware changed the probing process. They are looking at the level when contact with the washer breaks to get a more accurate reading in cases where the nozzle presses the down before making electrical contact.

So, it is normal.

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**Author:** ![Gilz](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.lulzbot.com/gilz/32/9940_2.png) [@Gilz](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/Gilz)\
**Post date:** [November 9, 2019, 1:28am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/leveling-problem/6990/3 "2019-11-09T01:28:24Z")

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Thank you nopick. This makes sense. I am still getting the same results as before, which surprised me when I thought my Mini had gone wrong during the leveling process. I wonder why no one flagged this difference --or did they and I missed it?

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**Author:** ![nopick](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/7bcc69/32.png) [@nopick](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/nopick)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2019, 2:16pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/leveling-problem/6990/4 "2019-11-11T14:16:11Z")

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It seems they changed to this method of corner measurement on some firmware and not others. I confirmed with support that this is a change being made to improve measurement performance. I didn’t see the change announced anywhere.
