# Lulzbot TAZ 3??

**URL:** <https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/lulzbot-taz-3/366>\
**Category:** LulzBot TAZ\
**Created:** [December 15, 2013, 1:07am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/lulzbot-taz-3/366 "2013-12-15T01:07:05Z")\
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**Author:** ![cabbage\_breath](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e68b1a/32.png) [@cabbage\_breath](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/cabbage_breath)\
**Post date:** [December 18, 2013, 3:47am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/lulzbot-taz-3/366/8 "2013-12-18T03:47:38Z")

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> [@cityguru](#):
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> better version for essentially close to the same exact price.

I don’t think this is necessarily true. The Taz 3 costs less (~$150 from the BOMs) for LulzBot to produce so it probably isn’t a “better” machine - besides the heated bed upgrade which was in the works for a while and there was a thread on here about it. [hotend no longer heats up - #19 by jebba](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/hotend-no-longer-heats-up/127/19)

Edit: sorry I didn’t see that the 2.1 included “labor” so 3.1 is actually more expensive to produce.

> [@BloodyCactus](#):
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> hmm my 2.1 shipped just last week. will there be an upgrade to the 24v heater because the heatbed on my 2.1 is slooooooooooooooooooooooooooow like 15 minutes to get to 83 ABS temps ☹

Try preheating it with a hair dryer or putting a sweater on it while it is heating up. 15 mins eh? I’m glad you mentioned that because it makes my stripboard heater ([Thingiverse - Digital Designs for Physical Objects](http://www.thingiverse.com/make:54040)) seem not so bad!

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