# Mini 1 v1.04 - Nozzle won't touch washer

**URL:** <https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/mini-1-v1-04-nozzle-wont-touch-washer/23849>\
**Category:** LulzBot Mini\
**Created:** [October 21, 2021, 3:31am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/mini-1-v1-04-nozzle-wont-touch-washer/23849 "2021-10-21T03:31:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![visage13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.lulzbot.com/visage13/32/11461_2.png) [@visage13](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/visage13)\
**Post date:** [October 21, 2021, 3:31am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/mini-1-v1-04-nozzle-wont-touch-washer/23849/1 "2021-10-21T03:31:34Z")

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I’m having an issue during auto leveling where the nozzle won’t touch the first washer causing it to fail with a clean nozzle error. In the past all I’ve had to do was readjust the X-axis and ensure the nozzle was clean. Lately the Mini has started making whining noises and vibrating at the top of the Z-axis. It printed several times then had issues that releveling and cleaning fixed. Then I printed a few more jobs. At this point it decided enough was enough and no amount of cleaning or aligning the X-axis works anymore. I’ve tried and checked several things that I’ll list:

Things I’ve tried, multiple times for some:

- Greased threaded rods with lithium grease - this got rid of whine and vibration
- Leveling the X-axis per: [https://ohai.lulzbot.com/project/leveling-x-axis/maintenance-repairs/](https://ohai.lulzbot.com/project/leveling-x-axis/maintenance-repairs/) - used digital calipers to ensure was close as possible
- Cleaning the nozzle thoroughly
- Checked resistance on nozzle, washers, and bed ground wire with a multimeter - all good
- Tightened ground screws and tightened bed washers
- Checked voltage on nozzle - in normal range
- Checked trigger state via M119 - no issues
- Opened the rambo box and checked wire connections to ensure everything was snug, I had issues with labels from wires getting into the fan before
- Upgraded and downgraded the firmware - currently using 1.1.9.34, tried 1.1.8.28 - not sure if any of the 2.0 firmware would help
- Different version of Cura LE 3.6.27-4, 3.6.25, 3.6.20

I have the stock single extruder and from what I can tell it’s stopping a few millimeters before touching the washer and erroring before going back into cleaning mode again. I checked the axis levels with M114 and manually lowered it to the washer and checked the position. When touching the washer it’s at Z -5.0 and triggers the Z-min (M119) lifting it up by 1 sets it to open again.

I’m at a loss on what to check next and help would be appreciated. I’ve searched everywhere and the most common answer is check X-axis which I’ve done. I’ve had my Mini 1 for several years now and it died in the middle of a multi print project. I hope I can get it working again soon. Thanks for any advice you can give.

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**Author:** ![canyondotmid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/87869e/32.png) [@canyondotmid](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/canyondotmid)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 8:36pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/mini-1-v1-04-nozzle-wont-touch-washer/23849/2 "2021-11-10T20:36:26Z")

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Hi, I have this exact problem with a Mini that I inherited. The problem apparently began after upgrading the firmware, currently I am on 1.1.9.28. It was working before.

During the leveling routine, I can see daylight between the print head and the bed leveling washer - it looks like it stops short by about 1 mm. I can’t find an adjustment for this.

OP, were you able to solve this problem?

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**Author:** ![visage13](https://sea2.discourse-cdn.com/flex020/user_avatar/forum.lulzbot.com/visage13/32/11461_2.png) [@visage13](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/visage13)\
**Post date:** [November 10, 2021, 9:28pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/mini-1-v1-04-nozzle-wont-touch-washer/23849/3 "2021-11-10T21:28:07Z")

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I contacted support and after some trouble shooting they wrote some custom firmware for me that resolved the issue so I could print again. We never did figure out what the actual issue was or what caused it to start doing that in the first place.

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**Author:** ![canyondotmid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/87869e/32.png) [@canyondotmid](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/canyondotmid)\
**Post date:** [November 11, 2021, 4:18am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/mini-1-v1-04-nozzle-wont-touch-washer/23849/4 "2021-11-11T04:18:55Z")

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Thanks for replying. I was able to find a workaround.

On my Mini, the machine believes the gap between its upper Z limit switch and the top part of the wiping pad is less than it truly is. At the very top of the Z axis travel, issuing the M114 command shows a Z coordinate of 158.00. At the top of the wiper pad, the coordinate is -.90. The nominal value at the top of the wiper pad should be 1.8 - so there is a nearly 3mm error.

In [this thread](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/trouble-with-lulzbot-mini-self-leveling-pickup/5599/11) from 2018, user ScottW proposes a quick fix: modify Cura’s gcode preamble to add a new offset. Reproducing it here:

> G28 ; home all axes  
> **G92 Z161 ; manually set Z position to 161**  
> G0 X0 Y187 Z156 F200 ; move away from endstops

Now my printer homes correctly. What a relief! Of course, this does not actually identify or resolve the root cause of the problem. My total time with this printer is 3 days, so I welcome any suggestions for a better fix.
