# TAZ max print speed?

**URL:** <https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344>\
**Category:** LulzBot TAZ\
**Created:** [December 2, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344 "2013-12-02T16:28:57Z")\
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**Author:** ![Andy\_W](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/898d66/32.png) [@Andy\_W](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/Andy_W)\
**Post date:** [December 2, 2013, 4:28pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344/1 "2013-12-02T16:28:57Z")

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Hi there, how fast can the TAZ print?

I got a AO-101 and TAZ printer and the 101 prints much prints much faster then the TAZ. No matter what settings I change in slicer the TAZ dosent print faster. All the prints take almost twice as long.  
Both printer running a 0.5mm Buddaschnozzle 2.0. Is there a limit how fast the TAZ can print, because the printer parts are heavier?

Here the printer running right next to each other.

[http://youtu.be/g7EbFnM4bKQ](http://youtu.be/g7EbFnM4bKQ)

Andy

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**Author:** ![Frakk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f17d59/32.png) [@Frakk](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/Frakk)\
**Post date:** [December 10, 2013, 7:01pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344/2 "2013-12-10T19:01:37Z")

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You need to adjust acceleration settings on the printer in the Motion Config menu. X/Y accelerations of 2400-3000 work very nicely for me. Make sure you adjust the “max” values as well if Slic3r controls these, just to be safe.

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**Author:** ![ufo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7feea3/32.png) [@ufo](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/ufo)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 2:36pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344/3 "2013-12-31T14:36:25Z")

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Can you explain this for me in a bit more depth? …Thanx

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**Author:** ![Frakk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f17d59/32.png) [@Frakk](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/Frakk)\
**Post date:** [December 31, 2013, 5:34pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344/4 "2013-12-31T17:34:45Z")

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On the LCD screen you can navigate through the menu Configuration -\> Motion where you end up with something like:

Acceleration: 2400  
Vxy: jerk 8  
VZ: jerk 0.4  
Ve: jerk 9  
Vmax-x 230  
vmax-y 180  
vmax-z 4  
vmax-e 20  
vmin 0  
vtravmin 0  
Amax x/y/z 4000  
Amax e 1000  
A-retract 900  
x/y steps/mm 100.50  
z steps 800  
e steps 975

These are the settings I’m using, where you can toy around with the Acceleration setting on the fly for more speed. The _max_ values are safety limits that override everything, make sure those are set within the capabilities of the machine.

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**Author:** ![ufo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7feea3/32.png) [@ufo](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/ufo)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344/5 "2014-01-02T14:18:46Z")

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where can I get the max numbers from? Lulzbot? or is it trial n error? and is there a manual for the LCD? Thanx! 😮 lol. Seems like a lot to learn for the average joe… My brain is in overload…lol

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**Author:** ![Frakk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f17d59/32.png) [@Frakk](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/Frakk)\
**Post date:** [January 2, 2014, 4:37pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344/6 "2014-01-02T16:37:14Z")

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The default values that came from Lulzbot were not set properly for my machine, maybe they have fixed them for the TAZ 3. My extruder acceleration and X/Y max velocities were too fast making it loose position, X/Y accelerations too slow, making it loose a lot of time on small segments and zig-zag patterns.

I haven’t found a lot of info on these settings or the LCD, you’re best bet is to use my values until you have problems, I already went through the trial and error.

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**Author:** ![ufo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7feea3/32.png) [@ufo](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/ufo)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 5:06am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344/7 "2014-01-03T05:06:38Z")

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will your values work with me, since you have a AO 100…?

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**Author:** ![Frakk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f17d59/32.png) [@Frakk](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/Frakk)\
**Post date:** [January 3, 2014, 2:18pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344/8 "2014-01-03T14:18:39Z")

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I can’t verify that for you as these are my TAZ 2 settings and don’t have the AO100. You can try and see where it takes you.

Easy steps to find your numbers:

- Set acceleration max limits to ~5000 not to limit you.
- Set acceleration to ~1000 to find maximum speed values. (value needs to be high enough to reach max speed in the 100mm movement)
- Work with one axis at a time. I start with X, then Y. Z and E needs different units since the gear ratio is a lot different but the steps are the same.

each axis:

- Set velocity maximum to ~100mm/s, then make the axis move 100mm then -100mm with 500mm/s feedrate from pronterface. Repeat this movement a couple times for consistency. (I did this with the encoder knob since manual machine movements will use these maximums)
- Increase speed until the machine is able to make the movement without getting stuck, making a loud noise and loose steps.
- Take the lowest velocity setting that starts flaking out, take 80% of that and make it your axis Vmax.
- On the same axis do the same with acceleration. Increase it until the motor gets stuck, then back off 20%.
- Jerk values won’t make the machine skip, you can adjust that for a bit smoother operation. (Jerk is how fast you’re acceleration turns on)

Do the same for your other axis: test movement \<-\> increase speed --\> test movement \<-\> increase acceleration, until the machine is fast, but never skips.

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**Author:** ![ufo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7feea3/32.png) [@ufo](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/ufo)\
**Post date:** [January 4, 2014, 2:51am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344/9 "2014-01-04T02:51:10Z")

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I changed the settings on the printer and when I turned off the printer, the settings went back to default. No way to lock them into the firmware?

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**Author:** ![Frakk](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f17d59/32.png) [@Frakk](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/Frakk)\
**Post date:** [January 5, 2014, 1:00am UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344/10 "2014-01-05T01:00:14Z")

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You should see the Save, Load, Load Default settings options in your Config menu. Alternatively M500 g-code is the Save EEPROM command, you can send it through pronterface.

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**Author:** ![ufo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/7feea3/32.png) [@ufo](https://forum.lulzbot.com/u/ufo)\
**Post date:** [January 8, 2014, 7:19pm UTC](https://forum.lulzbot.com/t/taz-max-print-speed/344/11 "2014-01-08T19:19:18Z")

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it seems to back to default…
