Convert Flexi-Dualie to standard Dual Head?

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Convert Flexi-Dualie to standard Dual Head?

Post by Wolfie » Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:38 pm

Ok, I am having a fun time trying to figure out what parts are where in the ftp.

What parts do I need to print to convert a Flexi-Dualie head to a standard Dual Head? I assume I need the extruder and maybe one of the dualie plates. But I can't find any extruder parts in the dualie folder.
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Re: Convert Flexi-Dualie to standard Dual Head?

Post by jebba » Sat Mar 07, 2015 3:46 pm

It should be in that folder too, but may be missing, but it is the same extruder that is in the TAZ 4/5 directories.

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Re: Convert Flexi-Dualie to standard Dual Head?

Post by Wolfie » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:13 am

I didn't see it.
/devel/lulzbot/TAZ/accessories/dual_extruder/dual_extruder-1.0/stl-gcode

There are only 4 folders, Dual_mouunt, Flex_plate, Future_revisions, Lower_Bracket.

/devel/lulzbot/TAZ/accessories/dual_extruder/dual_extruder_2.0/stl
There are 2 files but they do not allow download via FTP.

/devel/lulzbot/TAZ/accessories/flexy-dualie
There are NO STL files there at all.

Maybe a link in these folders to the appropriate sub-assemblies would be in order?

So I should get the extruder from the Taz4? Ironwood?
/devel/lulzbot/TAZ/Ironwood/production_parts/printed_parts

Or Holley?

I assume the currently shipping flexi-dualie is the budda hot end not the hex like I got with the taz5.

There is no difference in the base extruder (ships with taz) and the one on the dual head? Other than the thin steppers that is, I meant as far as the printed parts go.

I couldn't buy a dual extruder so I found a flexi-dualie to order and am retrofitting it. That way I will have the parts ready when it comes time to get rubbery ;)
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Re: Convert Flexi-Dualie to standard Dual Head?

Post by jebba » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:13 pm

Wolfie wrote:There is no difference in the base extruder (ships with taz) and the one on the dual head? Other than the thin steppers that is, I meant as far as the printed parts go.
Yes, I believe that is correct.

This body is the same one that is used on a (non-flexy) dualie:
http://download.lulzbot.com/TAZ/5.0/pro ... mhex_Mini/

Other bits of it:
http://download.lulzbot.com/TAZ/5.0/pro ... der_idler/
http://download.lulzbot.com/TAZ/5.0/pro ... der_latch/
http://download.lulzbot.com/TAZ/5.0/pro ... er_washer/
http://download.lulzbot.com/TAZ/5.0/pro ... mall_gear/
http://download.lulzbot.com/TAZ/5.0/pro ... bone_gear/

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Re: Convert Flexi-Dualie to standard Dual Head?

Post by kcchen_00 » Sun Mar 08, 2015 12:24 pm

Make sure to take a look at the V2 hotend flexystruder adapter plate a user created.
viewtopic.php?f=7&t=1799&view=unread#unread

At first glance, it seems as though the plate (or increasing thickness of the part) is all that's needed to modify the hexagon to work with the parts designed for the length of the buda.

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Re: Convert Flexi-Dualie to standard Dual Head?

Post by Wolfie » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:50 pm

I am not converting it to a hex hot end.

I am buying a flexi-dualie (two budda 2.0 I presume). Then ripping out the flexi head and building a standard extruder using parts from the flexi and the parts I print to make it a basic dual extruder. Why? Because nobody has stock of the basic dual head. I want two ABS capable heads. Right now that is.

Later I can either buy the extra parts and build a full flexi extruder/hot end for easy swap out or simply move the parts back again.
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Re: Convert Flexi-Dualie to standard Dual Head?

Post by Wolfie » Mon Mar 09, 2015 4:53 pm

jebba wrote:
Wolfie wrote:There is no difference in the base extruder (ships with taz) and the one on the dual head? Other than the thin steppers that is, I meant as far as the printed parts go.
Yes, I believe that is correct.

This body is the same one that is used on a (non-flexy) dualie:
http://download.lulzbot.com/TAZ/5.0/pro ... mhex_Mini/

Other bits of it:
http://download.lulzbot.com/TAZ/5.0/pro ... der_idler/
http://download.lulzbot.com/TAZ/5.0/pro ... der_latch/
http://download.lulzbot.com/TAZ/5.0/pro ... er_washer/
http://download.lulzbot.com/TAZ/5.0/pro ... mall_gear/
http://download.lulzbot.com/TAZ/5.0/pro ... bone_gear/

-Jeff
So of those what do I need to print to adapt the flexi head to a standard head? Wont the flexi have the same gears? If so I don't need to re-print those, can't I use the ones that come with the flexi-dualie? I am going to canabalize the head I receive and only need to print whats different no?
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Re: Convert Flexi-Dualie to standard Dual Head?

Post by Wolfie » Tue Mar 10, 2015 5:16 pm

Is there a BOM for the standard extruder? Are the 608 bearings and the hobbed bolt the one I need for use on the dual extruder? And what other hardware?
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Re: Convert Flexi-Dualie to standard Dual Head?

Post by jebba » Tue Mar 10, 2015 6:15 pm

Wolfie wrote:Is there a BOM for the standard extruder? Are the 608 bearings and the hobbed bolt the one I need for use on the dual extruder? And what other hardware?
There isn't a separate bom for the extruder outside the TAZ BOMs, but ohai-kit will have info too:

https://ohai-kit.alephobjects.com/proje ... b94e0c318/

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Re: Convert Flexi-Dualie to standard Dual Head?

Post by Wolfie » Wed Mar 11, 2015 1:32 pm

Yay, One of the items I was most worried about has no info...
"Extruderr Idler with 608 bearing installed"

So whats the bearing on? How is it mounted in the idler?

Now that I have the flexi-dualie in my paws, I see that there is NO idler on it to rape parts off of. So I will also need a lot more parts than I had thought I would (like the thumb screws for example).
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