Plans to Incorporate More TAZ 5 Features in KITTAZ?

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Plans to Incorporate More TAZ 5 Features in KITTAZ?

Post by Lotharyx » Mon Feb 23, 2015 5:12 pm

Hi there,

I was just wondering if there is a plan or schedule to start including more TAZ 5 features (in particular, the new toolhead with its forced-air cooler) as included parts for the KITTAZ?

Thanks,
-Brian, hopeful future KITTAZ owner

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Re: Plans to Incorporate More TAZ 5 Features in KITTAZ?

Post by Orias » Tue Feb 24, 2015 11:18 am

At this time we only have a few KITTAZ left in our warehouse. The KITTAZ is based on the TAZ 4. We don't have plans to release a TAZ 5 kit. We will however carry the same PEI bed sheet, and already have the LulzBot Hexagon toolhead available in our store.

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Re: Plans to Incorporate More TAZ 5 Features in KITTAZ?

Post by pixelFiend » Sun Mar 01, 2015 1:34 pm

Are you saying that you're not going to be offering any more KITTAZs, even for the TAZ4?

PF

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Re: Plans to Incorporate More TAZ 5 Features in KITTAZ?

Post by Orias » Mon Mar 02, 2015 10:07 am

Correct! We have 9 left at this time.

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Re: Plans to Incorporate More TAZ 5 Features in KITTAZ?

Post by Lotharyx » Tue Mar 10, 2015 12:15 pm

No more kits?!?! That's....disappointing. Orias, can you comment on the reasoning for this decision?

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Re: Plans to Incorporate More TAZ 5 Features in KITTAZ?

Post by sain » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:23 pm

Lotharyx wrote:No more kits?!?! That's....disappointing. Orias, can you comment on the reasoning for this decision?
Can't speak 100% but some reasons I can see as a business. SKU reduction. One less item to train support on. Volumes of the kits vs sale vs holding inventory. Better control on user experience (kits can be frustrating to build/people have a bad experience and blast Lulz on the kit). Just a few reasons off the top of my head.

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Re: Plans to Incorporate More TAZ 5 Features in KITTAZ?

Post by jebba » Tue Mar 10, 2015 1:41 pm

Two main reasons:

1) It is much harder to support a kit than an assembled printer.

2) One of the main reasons for doing a kit was to have a lower cost option, and now we have the Mini.

-Jeff

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Re: Plans to Incorporate More TAZ 5 Features in KITTAZ?

Post by Lotharyx » Wed Mar 11, 2015 8:07 am

jebba wrote:Two main reasons:

1) It is much harder to support a kit than an assembled printer.

2) One of the main reasons for doing a kit was to have a lower cost option, and now we have the Mini.
Jeff, thanks for the response. Here are my rebuttals, which I'm sure Lulzbot has already considered but I'd like to put them out here anyway:

1) Yes, and part of the buyer's contract when buying and building a kit should be the understanding that support is going to be harder to find. "You get this as a kit, your support avenue is the community." Unless kit parts are actually broken, Lulzbot is absolved. Of course, I realize the typical customer might have a hard time understanding this...

2) The Mini does not address the need for a low-cost option with a large build volume. The Mini's build volume is roughly the same as my MakerBot Thing-O-Matic.

Anyway, I'm not put off of Lulzbot by all this... Just a little disappointed to have to save up longer for an assembled version (and to miss out on the kit-building experience).

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Re: Plans to Incorporate More TAZ 5 Features in KITTAZ?

Post by Theycallmejohn » Wed Mar 11, 2015 9:53 am

I was looking forward to a future generation of the KITTAZ with some of the new features incorporated. I.e. Bed leveling, LCD, and hexagon hotend.

Would have been nice to see an option without the printed parts for a slightly reduced price for us who already own a Lulzbot machine.

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Re: Plans to Incorporate More TAZ 5 Features in KITTAZ?

Post by encomstron » Sat Mar 14, 2015 7:54 pm

Theycallmejohn wrote:I was looking forward to a future generation of the KITTAZ with some of the new features incorporated. I.e. Bed leveling, LCD, and hexagon hotend.

Would have been nice to see an option without the printed parts for a slightly reduced price for us who already own a Lulzbot machine.
Agreed .. There is a need for an option for picking up spare parts like the smaller fan and additional 2 wires with crimped ends for if we chose to print the Hex Hotend assembly our self's from the source files, as well as just the hotend it'self not just the whole toolhead.

However the nice thing about the KitTaz is almost anything made for the Taz 4/5 will almost be compatible with the KitTaz

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