"Rumors" of Lulzbot Closing by End of October 2019

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Re: "Rumors" of Lulzbot Closing by End of October 2019

Post by pehjota » Wed Oct 30, 2019 2:50 am

Biolumo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:07 pm
For the rest who are interested, i have made sure to backup the entire devel and download portions of the lulzbot website before it is gone. I would recommend you do the same. I used wget on linux to copy it all.
Why wget? All that data is easily available over rsync:

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$ rsync -az --stats rsync://rsync.alephobjects.com/lulzbot lulzbot
$ rsync -az --stats rsync://rsync.alephobjects.com/devel devel
$ rsync -az --stats rsync://rsync.alephobjects.com/ao ao
The directory sizes (excluding file system overhead) are 101 GiB for lulzbot, 219 GiB for devel, and 8.5 GiB for ao.

Also be sure to grab Git repositories from Phabricator (48 GiB in 212 repositories):

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$ for r in $(wget -q -O - http://www.pehjota.net/~pj/code.alephobjects.com_repositories | grep '.git$'); do git clone --mirror "https://code.alephobjects.com/${r}" "${r}"; done
Biolumo wrote:
Mon Oct 21, 2019 11:07 pm
I like the lulzbot printers a lot, but I think they expanded too quickly, and innovated too slowly combined with poor money management. Oh well, live and learn. On to Prusa...
Agreed on expanding too quickly, but sadly I don't see Prusa (or anyone else) as a replacement for LulzBot. They lack features like a modular carriage, real dual extrusion, and a double XZ frame for a really rigid and stable Y axis.
Biolumo wrote:
Fri Oct 25, 2019 4:06 am
Don't forget to backup OHAI.lulzbot.com.
Yes, for anyone else, this will grab all that (13 GiB):

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$ wget --wait=1 --adjust-extension --convert-links --mirror --page-requisites https://ohai.lulzbot.com/ https://ohai.lulzbot.com/group/
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Re: "Rumors" of Lulzbot Closing by End of October 2019

Post by radensb » Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:25 pm

Does anyone know what is going to happen with the forum? Its already suffering from spam bots and will need periodic maintenance. There is A LOT of great information embedded in these threads that would be a shame to lose!

A buddy of mine said that he was able to clone the download FTP and the OHAI site in its entirety (JavaScript and all!) There is a TON of info and data files. Perhaps github is not the appropriate place to archive all this stuff? They recommend repos under 1GB and have a hard limit set at 100GB. I don't think that's enough and doesn't allow the site material to function...

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Re: "Rumors" of Lulzbot Closing by End of October 2019

Post by sfghsfghsrthsrth » Sat Nov 02, 2019 1:58 am

radensb wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:25 pm
A buddy of mine said that he was able to clone the download FTP and the OHAI site in its entirety (JavaScript and all!) There is a TON of info and data files. Perhaps github is not the appropriate place to archive all this stuff?
Just run the scripts in the post above yours it works to grab pretty much everything. Just make sure you have enough space to handle mirroring the entire thing. If they really do close you can post the last archive as a torrent it is the best way to share something that large anyone who mirrored the company before could become seeds. (~300GB of data) No cloud provider is going to allow you to share that for free.

Edit: Be careful mirroring the forums you might download something nasty if the few remaining staff miss a security update or something. I mirrored everything into a sandbox vm and will just store it away in case I need reference for my Taz6 printers in the future.

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Re: "Rumors" of Lulzbot Closing by End of October 2019

Post by 3dRiffs » Sat Nov 02, 2019 12:16 pm

Hadn't thought about grabbing the forums (got everything else), but that's not a bad idea. Did you use rsync or wget on them?

And yeah, a torrent would be the best place, once we know for sure.

Fingers cross that no news is good news though, and that someone will pick up the assets.

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Re: "Rumors" of Lulzbot Closing by End of October 2019

Post by psilocybin665 » Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:55 pm

Got it. Thanks for the scripts!
Running 'du -hs' reports:
8.5 G ao
220 GB devel
102g lulzbot
13G ohai.lulzbot.com
21G phabricator

I must have missed some of the phabricator. I think at some point it asked me for a git username, and I don't have one. Maybe I need to create an account?

Misc thoughts:
I was hoping they would lower their prices while trying to liquidate their inventory, but I haven't seen any price drops so far. Thinking that they would close on Halloween and have nobody left to ship my order, I bought some upgrades from DigiKey instead. A great thing about DigiKey is that they list the number of items in stock, so you can get an idea of how long you might have before they run out. They are down to 3 dual extruders now that I bought mine.
Just picked up a dual extruder v3 and modular heatbed. My Taz 6 has been doing very well since I bought it last year. The only thing I have needed to do so far has been to clean the bed and nozzle occasionally. It is a really sturdy printer.
I was hoping that they would release a dual extrusion tool head with hardened steel nozzles, but I suppose that will never happen now. Bummer. I want to mix glow in the dark filament and black in one print.
Imagine this with blue glow in the dark details:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3117195
I printed that cat at 25% size with the 0.25mm SL tool head and it looks amazing. Too bad my cheap PLA broke at the tail.
I learned not to trust cheap filament. I learned a lot this year. Thanks, Lulzbot, for a great time. If I had the money, I would buy the Taz Pro.

Does anyone have links to a good tutorial on changing the nozzles in something close to the dual extruder tool head? The best I could find so far was something saying the hotends use E3D Volcano nozzles. At least I know which size to get. If I get the new E3D Nozzle X I can get up to 1.2mm nozzles. I think I would go with 1.0mm. I wonder how big I can go with PETG, PLA, or PVA before they start to drip from the nozzle during printing?

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Re: "Rumors" of Lulzbot Closing by End of October 2019

Post by pehjota » Sun Nov 03, 2019 5:27 pm

psilocybin665 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:55 pm
Got it. Thanks for the scripts!
Running 'du -hs' reports:
8.5 G ao
220 GB devel
102g lulzbot
13G ohai.lulzbot.com
21G phabricator

I must have missed some of the phabricator. I think at some point it asked me for a git username, and I don't have one. Maybe I need to create an account?
I think two repositories requested authentication (even over HTTPS) but were just empty mirrors. I was able to download 213 of the 218 repositories in my list -- all but:
  • source/gnuwin32.git
  • source/FOO-openwrt-feed-routing.git
  • source/py2app/
  • source/sip/
  • source/pyobjc/
du reports 46 GiB total.

I did have some trouble with cloning some of the really large repositories over HTTPS. I had to use SSH for those (replace "https://" with "ssh://git@" in the clone command). For that you need a Phabricator account and an uploaded SSH public key. But new accounts have to be approved by an administrator, and I doubt that's been happening in these past three weeks.
psilocybin665 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:55 pm
I was hoping that they would release a dual extrusion tool head with hardened steel nozzles, but I suppose that will never happen now. Bummer. I want to mix glow in the dark filament and black in one print.
The modular carriage is an open system, and Aleph Objects isn't the only company that made/makes tool heads for it. IT-Works 3D and the Colorado Printing Project have made some nice tool heads, and my company Libiquity might make some as well.
psilocybin665 wrote:
Sat Nov 02, 2019 7:55 pm
Does anyone have links to a good tutorial on changing the nozzles in something close to the dual extruder tool head? The best I could find so far was something saying the hotends use E3D Volcano nozzles. At least I know which size to get. If I get the new E3D Nozzle X I can get up to 1.2mm nozzles. I think I would go with 1.0mm. I wonder how big I can go with PETG, PLA, or PVA before they start to drip from the nozzle during printing?
The Yellowfin (Dual Extruder Tool Head v3) bill of materials says it uses hot ends from E3D, but they don't look like any standard E3D hot ends. They seem to be custom (as suggested also by the E3D part numbers in the BoM: CC-AO-GUN-AS-LH and CC-AO-GUN-AS-RH). The stock nozzle on the LulzBot Dual Extruder is LulzBot's usual 0.5 mm, so that's probably a V6 nozzle. I'm not sure if the hot end is compatible with Volcano nozzles. In any case, E3D has assembly instructions that show how to install their nozzles onto their hot ends.

EDIT: The support page for the LulzBot Dual v3 hot end specifies E3D V6 threading, so it looks like Volcano nozzles won't work.
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Re: "Rumors" of Lulzbot Closing by End of October 2019

Post by 3dRiffs » Sun Nov 03, 2019 11:06 pm

I've been tempted to grab a v3 dual (have a v2 that never really worked well), but he v3 had a rough launch with issues, clogging, and temp problems. Anyone aphorism has a recent one able to comment on how well it works?

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Re: "Rumors" of Lulzbot Closing by End of October 2019

Post by piercet » Tue Nov 05, 2019 1:14 pm

radensb wrote:
Fri Nov 01, 2019 7:25 pm
Does anyone know what is going to happen with the forum? Its already suffering from spam bots and will need periodic maintenance. There is A LOT of great information embedded in these threads that would be a shame to lose!

A buddy of mine said that he was able to clone the download FTP and the OHAI site in its entirety (JavaScript and all!) There is a TON of info and data files. Perhaps github is not the appropriate place to archive all this stuff? They recommend repos under 1GB and have a hard limit set at 100GB. I don't think that's enough and doesn't allow the site material to function...
A static clone of the forum exists. If the main one closes that will be a repository, but most of the forum activity has shifted to the lulzbot mini and taz facebook page.

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Re: "Rumors" of Lulzbot Closing by End of October 2019

Post by db44 » Wed Nov 06, 2019 11:17 am

Hi Folks,
I sent my mini in for warranty work at the start of Oct. Now, of course, I'm hearing nothing back. They still have my printer. Suggestions?
-Thanks

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Re: "Rumors" of Lulzbot Closing by End of October 2019

Post by fivewaters » Thu Nov 07, 2019 3:46 pm

I tried to make a call to LulzBot and no one is answering the phones. So, I guess they ceased production. I did talk with someone who worked there last week and there are some positive things coming down the pipe. They had a gag order so they couldn't discuss it. But stay tuned!

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